IBM layoffs raise ire in N.Y. State Assembly

By Patrick Thibodeau, Computerworld |  Business, IBM, layoff 8 comments

Social network Twitter and message boards brought the fallout of IBM's layoffs on Thursday to life, as employees posted the news about their job losses in real time.

But there was political reaction as well. A State Assembly member questioned how a company that receives taxpayer assistance can also cut employees and move jobs overseas.

New York State Assemblyman Greg Ball, a Republican whose district includes IBM's home county of Westchester, called for a legislative hearing to look into IBM's layoffs in light of the state's multi-million-dollar investments to help the company.

"My fear is that IBM has planned to offshore large portions of [its] business and meanwhile [is] accepting taxpayers dollars under a guise of keeping those positions here," Ball said in an interview. "And if that's the case, then those dollars should be return."

IBM officials could not immediately reached for comment.

Last July, New York said that it would provide $140 million in grants to IBM, which in turn was investing $1.5 billion to create 1,000 new jobs in nanotechnology. The agreement also included $65 million in provisions to help IBM retain jobs at its East Fishkill plant in Dutchess County, an area also represented by Ball.

IBM confirmed its job action but declined to provide any detail about how many employees are affected or where they are located. The Alliance@IBM, which was expecting between 4,000 and 5,000 layoffs, said by Thursday evening it had counted 3,251 workers who had been laid off and given a severance package.

The union believes that IBM is shifting jobs overseas. One IBM employee, who wished to remain anonymous, said managers were vague about the reason for the layoffs, citing the economy generally. "All I am hearing is they have to make hard decisions based on the economy," the employee said. But the employee also pointed out that IBM's services unit was doing well and making a profit -- something the company has cited in its financial reports.

Ron Hira , an assistant professor of public policy at the Rochester Institute of Technology and author of Outsourcing America, said IBM has spelled out a plan in to shift jobs to India and "they are executing on it: Jettison high-cost workers in the U.S. and substitute them for workers in low-cost countries like India."

IBM's offshoring could also put raise questions about projects funded under the government's massive stimulus. "If policy makers want to create jobs with taxpayer dollars then they ought to ensure this creates jobs in the U.S. and not in India or other countries," said Hira. "IBM is clearly trying to hide the fact that stimulus dollars it receives will actually create jobs overseas rather than here in America."

On a union message board, layoff news was shared.

"I just [received a] call from my manager and got 30-day notice.... Good luck to all," wrote one, anonymously. There were messages on Twitter, as well, with one person lamenting how he wished he hadn't turned on his cell phone to hear the bad news. Another asked people on Twitter to re-tweet news of his layoff.

Like others, he is now looking for a job.

8 comments

    Anonymous 2 years ago
    This is very unfortunate and sad for US workers/tax payers to lose their jobs at the same time their tax money is being spent on grants/federal projects to IBM. They should be patriotic in what they are doing. This is outrageous. This has to stop. Companies should treat US workers as human beings and give priority to US workers over other countires. Congress and government should wake up!!!
    Anonymous 2 years ago
    We tried to fight it during the Bush years in 2002.Remember Mike Emmons in Lake Mary, FL?Remember the Bank of America employee, Kevin Flanigan that commited suicide?Nobody listened then. Nobody is listening now.Everybody is unemployed now.WAKE UP already and FIGHT!
    Anonymous 2 years ago
    they also laid off 4500 in Febrary 2009.
    Anonymous 2 years ago
    That money needs to be returned! Where is the oversight? This is all to much and extremely maddening! IBM = Itty Bitty Minds.
    Anonymous 2 years ago
    It's a sad day when 'We the People' allow ourselves to be taken for a ride. IBM has blantly taken advantage of the American people for the the good of their investors and Corporate heads. They have taken $140 million in grant money from the American people, layed off 4000 American people who represent, only salary, $320 million in cost and hired 2000 people from Indian for $10 million dollars. What a country, what an administration and what foolish people we are if we continue to stand by when corporate greed and benefit exceeds the needs of the people. These corporations are only doing what they are allowed to do, what we let them do and what they'll continue to do until we say "ENOUGH!".
    Anonymous 2 years ago
    Don't you believe a word of the lies they spew. I work for IBM and I have seen half my group get laid off and trust me their replacements are in India because I now work with the India crew everyday. IBM also spends thousands of dollars to train Indian workers who stay 6 months to a year and learn all they can from American workers, get education and then go to other companies that will pay more than IBM. Not only do the jobs go there but we (US WORKERS) continue to train new batches. And oh by the way don't even try to get any Education in the US. All the Education money is for India.Wake up OBAMA and all FOLKS in the government. IBM like every other company offshoring is selling out America. Take back any tax payer money... Terminate any Federal contracts and purchases from these companies that offshore.
    Anonymous 2 years ago in reply to Anonymous
    It is so sad that the people left with a job still have to worry about this. It has been an ongoing thing since I have started 10 years ago where you know that sooner than later we will have to train our replacement from India/China/Brazil/Argentina.They hide everything. In regards to the“$140 million in grants to IBM, which in turn was investing $1.5 billion to create 1,000 new jobs in nanotechnology (East Fishkill plant in Dutchess County)…they fail to mention how they asked those that are left to move there at your own expense (who cares if you are not able to sell your house) and even then you are not guaranteed a job. If you say no, then you have to leave with no severance package. So basically, they get government funding to take the job from one place, move it to another and look like IBM has created more jobs. Are we really that stupid???We need the government to stop giving out the B2 visas for these people to come train here. Do they not realize they are killing the very country that built them? I never agreed to have my tax money go to all of this!!!!!

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