Apple and Google zealots may not like to hear that their beloved will be hated one day like Microsoft, but it's true. In an industry where users are fickle and power translates to evilness, no one is safe from the wrath of anonymous haters that dislike anything that looks like an empire. Let's take a trip down memory lane.
by steveballmer (not verified) on 6/24/08 at 5:28 pm |reply
Piffle.
Piffle.
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/24/08 at 6:05 pm |reply
Intellectually
Intellectually retarded.
(Enjoy getting my click though.)
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/24/08 at 7:39 pm |reply
This looks more like seeding
This looks more like seeding a thought ... "stop hating MS alone..."
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 3:07 am |reply
Nonsense linkbait, Don, and
Nonsense linkbait, Don, and you know it.
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/24/08 at 10:12 pm |reply
Apple is already hated by MS
Apple is already hated by MS users everywhere. They're hated for overcharging for computers that are lacking in features. Everything is closed on Apple from hardware to software. Steve Jobs is hated for wearing a mock turtleneck. Mac users are hated as snobbish iTards that can't replace a thumb drive.
by Constable Odo (not verified) on 6/24/08 at 10:26 pm |reply
Really? I think that's a
Really? I think that's a tough sell.
It's true that MS fanboys hate Apple, but I'm not too sure it goes beyond that.
by Don Reisinger (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 1:34 pm |reply
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? Apple has been hated for years. It is my theory that this hatred of Apple is what created the Mac zealot. For years Apple was treated as an overpriced, second rate has been. This treatment created a group of people always fearful that the company that made their favorite tools and toys was going to disappear. Any slight on the part of a journalist, analyst, or neighbor for that matter was met with a fervent and passionate attack. The last five or six years has seen the resurgence of a love for Apple products by the general population. Microsoft on the other hand is completely different. Once again, what are you talking about? Microsoft has never been loved or hated by the general populace. Microsoft has always been met with a great big exhale of ambivalence. Other than Apple fanatics I know of very few people who love or hate Microsoft with any semblance of passion. My personal feelings about these two companies is just that, they are companies. They exist to make money. Apple is as bad as Microsoft, but in my opinion, Apple makes better tools and toys. Closed, open proprietary, free, overpriced whatever. Different strokes for different folks. Funny thing is as an Apple fan my two favorite Microsoft products are its' biggest loss leaders. Xbox, and the tablet PC. Look I don't like how Microsoft ran its' business in the early 1990's, but I'm not naive enough to think that Apple or any other company wouldn't have done the same. I'm sure you'll get the typical Microsoft sucks, Apple sucks responses in your comments, I for one say the post/article sucks. That's ok Mr. Don Reisinger, no one bats 1000. Not Apple, not Microsoft, not Google.
by kubricklove (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 1:09 am |reply
You fundamentally do not
You fundamentally do not understand. Microsoft from the very beginning was a poser. They created crappy software and were successful because of illegal monopolistic tactics, not because of the excellence of their product. Anyone with half a brain could see that from the beginning. It has nothing to do with how big you are or how successful. It's only now that people can see than the emperor has no clothes.
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 9:13 am |reply
I don't think you
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Although you may not want to admit it, Microsoft did not create crappy software and it was loved by the vast majority of people using the product.
We need to remember to look beyond our frame of reference and see that the less tech-savvy people outnumber those of us who know what we're talking about.
Microsoft may not be liked today, but years ago, Bill Gates was all the rage.
by Don Reisinger (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 1:32 pm |reply
"..how long will it possibly
"..how long will it possibly take before the general public realizes that Apple's strategy of controlling its OS and iPhone with an iron fist are more of a money-grab than an attempt to "keep us safe"?"
Apple's strategy is neither a money-grab or an attempt to "keep us safe". It is the strategy of vertical integration that leads to superior quality products. It is the strategy Apple employed when it was losing badly in the marketplace, and it's the strategy now that it's winning. It is the only way Apple knows for building the best products.
by ITWorker (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 4:14 pm |reply
I think what you perceive as
I think what you perceive as control over customers is actually quality-brand management. Breaking the Telecom Industry Practices and dictates of relationships takes quite a bit "strategery" and alliance building, and positioning and what-not. Just imagine if Verizon got a hold of technology that it would not possibly develop on its own; they would cheapen it so that it was no different than a ... a smart phone.
Face it, it ain't Steve Jobs it's a team of people all on the same page. Damn I wish I could work at such a place. Wouldn't it be nice if the federal sector worked that way? Just imagine, success in government, schools that were dynamic to meet - no - that develop everyday leaders regardless of circumstance, churches that actually spiritually feed people so that no one has to tell the people how to vote and why.
I have team-envy, sliderule-envy, corporate culture envy, coworker envy - but in a good way. Lighten-up will ya, let's enjoy the ride until things change.
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/25/08 at 8:25 pm |reply
by Anonymous (not verified) on 6/26/08 at 4:14 pm |reply
Everything to Everyone?
Can a company who wants to be everything to everyone survive? I know some people that have tried this and have failed miserably. Over time, you spread yourself too thin and one day wake up to realize that you do a lot of great things, very poorly. Google has come up with a lot of good ideas, a lot of good software has been developed, but someone is always looking to do it better. The more lines of business they enter into, the bigger and bigger the organization has to become to keep quality on par with quantity. This always leads to less-nimble companies that have difficulty changing directions as technology and industry trends change. Microsoft is a perfect example. Look at their online services division, less than steller performance there. Google might be one of the brightest stars in technology today, but stars fade and ultimately turn into giant supernovas.
History is always destined to repeat itself... unfortunately.
by Scott Richardson (not verified) on 11/5/09 at 11:29 pm |reply
Sidekick: The Good News & the Bad News Either way you look at it Microsoft Data Center management did not follow standards or best practices in this failure. In which case it makes me wonder more about the outsourcing of corporate data much less personal data.
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Piffle.
Piffle.Intellectually
Intellectually retarded.(Enjoy getting my click though.)
This looks more like seeding
This looks more like seeding a thought ... "stop hating MS alone..."
Nonsense linkbait, Don, and
Nonsense linkbait, Don, and you know it.Apple is already hated by MS
Apple is already hated by MS users everywhere. They're hated for overcharging for computers that are lacking in features. Everything is closed on Apple from hardware to software. Steve Jobs is hated for wearing a mock turtleneck. Mac users are hated as snobbish iTards that can't replace a thumb drive.Really? I think that's a
Really? I think that's a tough sell.It's true that MS fanboys hate Apple, but I'm not too sure it goes beyond that.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? Apple has been hated for years. It is my theory that this hatred of Apple is what created the Mac zealot. For years Apple was treated as an overpriced, second rate has been. This treatment created a group of people always fearful that the company that made their favorite tools and toys was going to disappear. Any slight on the part of a journalist, analyst, or neighbor for that matter was met with a fervent and passionate attack. The last five or six years has seen the resurgence of a love for Apple products by the general population. Microsoft on the other hand is completely different. Once again, what are you talking about? Microsoft has never been loved or hated by the general populace. Microsoft has always been met with a great big exhale of ambivalence. Other than Apple fanatics I know of very few people who love or hate Microsoft with any semblance of passion. My personal feelings about these two companies is just that, they are companies. They exist to make money. Apple is as bad as Microsoft, but in my opinion, Apple makes better tools and toys. Closed, open proprietary, free, overpriced whatever. Different strokes for different folks. Funny thing is as an Apple fan my two favorite Microsoft products are its' biggest loss leaders. Xbox, and the tablet PC. Look I don't like how Microsoft ran its' business in the early 1990's, but I'm not naive enough to think that Apple or any other company wouldn't have done the same. I'm sure you'll get the typical Microsoft sucks, Apple sucks responses in your comments, I for one say the post/article sucks. That's ok Mr. Don Reisinger, no one bats 1000. Not Apple, not Microsoft, not Google.You fundamentally do not
You fundamentally do not understand. Microsoft from the very beginning was a poser. They created crappy software and were successful because of illegal monopolistic tactics, not because of the excellence of their product. Anyone with half a brain could see that from the beginning. It has nothing to do with how big you are or how successful. It's only now that people can see than the emperor has no clothes.I don't think you
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Although you may not want to admit it, Microsoft did not create crappy software and it was loved by the vast majority of people using the product.
We need to remember to look beyond our frame of reference and see that the less tech-savvy people outnumber those of us who know what we're talking about.
Microsoft may not be liked today, but years ago, Bill Gates was all the rage.
"..how long will it possibly
"..how long will it possibly take before the general public realizes that Apple's strategy of controlling its OS and iPhone with an iron fist are more of a money-grab than an attempt to "keep us safe"?"Apple's strategy is neither a money-grab or an attempt to "keep us safe". It is the strategy of vertical integration that leads to superior quality products. It is the strategy Apple employed when it was losing badly in the marketplace, and it's the strategy now that it's winning. It is the only way Apple knows for building the best products.
I think what you perceive as
I think what you perceive as control over customers is actually quality-brand management. Breaking the Telecom Industry Practices and dictates of relationships takes quite a bit "strategery" and alliance building, and positioning and what-not. Just imagine if Verizon got a hold of technology that it would not possibly develop on its own; they would cheapen it so that it was no different than a ... a smart phone.Face it, it ain't Steve Jobs it's a team of people all on the same page. Damn I wish I could work at such a place. Wouldn't it be nice if the federal sector worked that way? Just imagine, success in government, schools that were dynamic to meet - no - that develop everyday leaders regardless of circumstance, churches that actually spiritually feed people so that no one has to tell the people how to vote and why.
I have team-envy, sliderule-envy, corporate culture envy, coworker envy - but in a good way. Lighten-up will ya, let's enjoy the ride until things change.
That's probably true check
That's probably truecheck it out on http://www.themostpowerfulcompany.com
Everything to Everyone?
Can a company who wants to be everything to everyone survive? I know some people that have tried this and have failed miserably. Over time, you spread yourself too thin and one day wake up to realize that you do a lot of great things, very poorly. Google has come up with a lot of good ideas, a lot of good software has been developed, but someone is always looking to do it better. The more lines of business they enter into, the bigger and bigger the organization has to become to keep quality on par with quantity. This always leads to less-nimble companies that have difficulty changing directions as technology and industry trends change. Microsoft is a perfect example. Look at their online services division, less than steller performance there. Google might be one of the brightest stars in technology today, but stars fade and ultimately turn into giant supernovas.History is always destined to repeat itself... unfortunately.