Why China has more to lose than Google

It's true. Google leaving China harms both. But it hurts the Chinese government more than Google. Here's why.

By Mike Elgan  15 comments

The Associated Press pointed out the obvious today in a piece headlined "China without Google: 'a lose-lose scenario'."

The piece says losing permission to operate in China means Google won't be able to take Street View pictures, and its partnerships with cell phone companies and others would suffer. There are both direct and indirect downsides to Google.

But I think the downsides are far greater for the Chinese government.

Governments have long been forced to choose between authoritarianism and wealth. Authoritarian countries were poor. Capitalist democracies were rich.

Since the 1980s, China has tried to have it both ways: Suppress and control the people like a two-bit, third rate authoritarian government in the same category as, say, Burma or Cuba, but get rich on the spoils of capitalism like, say, the UK or Japan.

China has been getting away with it. The reason is above all its enormous population. Access to Chinese markets makes foreign multinationals and governments alike go all wobbly at the knees with greed. There's so much money to be made. Why allow little annoyances like the systematic trampling of human rights get in the way of making money?

And then Google comes along. Like other foreign companies trying to do business in China, Google has been violated in multiple ways -- hacked, stolen from, bullied, treated unfairly compared with Chinese competitors, and so on.

Like most companies, Google was willing to tolerate this in exchange for the money. However, Google is different from other companies in two ways.

First, its source code -- and the algorithms that govern page rank -- are the search business. When those were stolen by hackers (likely on behalf of Bidu, its chief Chinese competitor or the Chinese government or both), it was equivalent to Intel's next-generation chip designs being stolen by AMD, or KFC's secret recipe being stolen by Popeye's Chicken.

Second, nearly all Google's services can be delivered remotely, without a physical presence within China.

That combination prompted Google to threaten an abandonment of China, which looks increasingly likely.

Google doesn't want to leave China. And China doesn't want Google to leave. But Google wants to operate securely, and without censoring free speech for the Chinese Communist Party. And China wants Google to serve as an enabler of its authoritarian suppression.

The downside of a China departure for Google means potentially earning a few billion less in annual profits. The company will still earn dozens of billions each year, grow rapidly and continue to dominate the industry -- not to mention increasingly encroach on all our lives, and become indispensible to billions of people around the world.

But the threat to the Chinese Communist Party-dominated political system is existential.

The Chinese government wants to silence any conversation about its authoritarian suppression of political freedom, political speech, political prisoners and what China watchers call the "three Ts: Tibet, Tiananmen, and Taiwan." It wants to be seen as a leading nation, the new superpower.

But if Google leaves, the conversation will never end. Every time the subject of Google in China comes up, which will be all day, every day, everyone will be reminded that China is to be categorized along with the authoritarian regimes of Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Burma and others, rather than among the leading nations like the United States, the UK, Germany, Japan and others.

Pressure on companies like Microsoft, Yahoo, Cisco and others, who have so far make billions from helping the Chinese Communist Party suppress freedom and democracy in China, will be placed under far more scrutiny.

Google will be unleashed as the leading destination for those within China who manage to get around the Great Firewall of China. Who knows what apps, sites, features and services Google could come up with to enable Chinese people to gain access to uncensored information?

Google leaving China is bad for Google, but it's really bad for the Chinese government, which will be constantly exposed for the authoritarian enemy of human rights, human freedom and human dignity that it really is.

I say bring it on.

15 comments

    jimmy9200
    jimmy9200 16 weeks ago
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    toddbruce77 45 weeks ago
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    Scott 45 weeks ago
    Google is one of the leading search engine in current period and by the deal in between China and Google it seems a Chinese people take a good advantage from this product, since Google has been hacked it seems a great loss for Google and it doesn't needs to claim just because lack of evidence.Keyword discovery
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    rodriguez 45 weeks ago
    It's have been a great issued in between the Chinese govt. and Google, I found Google has facing a lots of hacking problem in China, but Google have no evidence regarding the involvement of Chinese govt in this hacking matters.product designing
    Anonymous 46 weeks ago
    Pretty much every business wants to operate in a secure manner, and be able to protect their assets. With China being such a huge country the government are to a certain extent a law unto themselves, and Google are very clearly outsiders looking in. China are holding all the cards and naturally want a slice of Google's pie, but it can't be at the expense of losing the company's main assets.Mikeacne treatments
    tenveer25
    tenveer25 46 weeks ago
    I found some interesting topic in the blog to take part, these are being taken place just because of the hackers no company should allow to being hacked by others, I feel Google don't have any proper evidence for the involvement of government with the hacker's but I wish it was just depend on Google either to stay in China or leave. internet marketing products
    jimmy9200
    jimmy9200 16 weeks ago in reply to tenveer25
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    Anonymous 46 weeks ago
    I find it rather weird for a country to not allow Google. Isn't Google today's top search engine? Oh well, it is their loss... I pity the people of China, they'll be deprived of tons of great Google features and apps :( cavity wall insulation problems
    Anonymous 47 weeks ago
    China doesn’t need outsiders telling it what to do. It needs its own homegrown search engine, with built in switches to vary degrees of truth, censorship and nationalistic pride.Thanks for posting... joye 510 starter kit
    Anonymous 49 weeks ago
    I was wondering that does google or other organization have some direct evidents to approve the hacker comes from china and the government involved in it? show it, don’t juest say something. and if google just want to leave, do it, no body can force google stay in china, and internet will work well in china without google; if google want to stay in china, how could google treat the chinese people and chinse government like this. Building Self Esteem
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    China doesn’t need outsiders telling it what to do. It needs its own homegrown search engine, with built in switches to vary degrees of truth, censorship and nationalistic pride. That's why we will soon be launching choogling.com See details at http://chinareallysucks.com/Site/New_Stuff/Entries/2010/3/29_Google_goes%2C_but_you_can_keep_on_Choogling.html
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    If you have not lived in poverty, if you have not experienced life in China's 60s, 70s and even 80s, if you looked China in the eyes of west, you will be wrong again and the same goes to Google.The first time I was in US in 1984, Americans laughed at people driving Japanese Cars, and a lot of products were made in Japan. Now what? Authoritarian or not, if you compared with the performance of the government and changing of living standard in people, Chinese government is number one. If you looked at the mess in Iraq and suffer of its people, you would find no one that support the change of regime at the expense of their lives. If think the Chinese are under suppression, think of those people suffered because of the political decisions from these democratic governments and the financial crises they brought to the world? I lived in UK and Canada for 12yrs and tired of the inefficiencies of the government and waste of our tax payers dollars, and maneuver of political precess and procedures. When you do not know and have only your views, the comparisons you made are wrong at the beginning. Wait and see, the result is either google will make concession or it will lose to its competitors.
    Anonymous 46 weeks ago in reply to Anonymous
    China is a mixed system. The ones on top are authoritarian and the process below are somewhat. Companies like google will have difficulty operating really in this type of environment because of the presence of chinese competitors. I don't know more but it's between them. astrological compatibility
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Hi MikeCouldn't agree with you more, after spending the last six years in China. Your perspective to say the least hits the nail on the head.StephenThe Nomadic Romantic English Gentleman
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Means something you really couldn't do but you are still imagining doing it to make yourself feels better.

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