Replace IE6 with anything but IE 8

Everyone agrees that Internet Explorer 6 should be trashed, but IE 8 also has its share of problems.

By sjvn  11 comments

I can't stand IE (Internet Explorer) 6. I'm in good company. Most people hate it. Even Microsoft can't find a kind word to say for the 8+ year old Web browser. While I've liked IE8 at first as a possible replacement, as I've continued to use it, I've found it's more trouble than it's worth.

First, though, as for why you should dump IE6, it's hopelessly outdated. Even though IE6 still has an amazing 20% of the market, it tends to be the most insecure of all the popular Web browsers and more and more companies like Google are planning on dropping support for it.

So why not IE8? Here's why.

Number one on my list is that as time has gone on, it's become all too clear that while IE8 isn't as insecure as IE6, all of the IE family come with security defective genes. No sooner than one bug is fixed, such as the one that China appears to have exploited than another pops up, such as the recent one that allows an attacker to read every file of your PC's file system.

That's bad old news, but I found another, new fun and annoying reason why I can no longer recommend IE8: its search engine lock-in.

I recently installed a fresh copy of 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate. Along the way I was setting up IE8. IE8 comes with Bing, Microsoft's own 'search' engine as its default. Now, I think Bing sucks dead basketball shoes through rusty tailpipes but, OK, it's Microsoft's Web browser, so, of course they're going to use their own search engine.

When I went about trying to change it though, I found that IE8 was doing its darnedest to keep me from changing it to another useful engine. Instead of offering me a simple choice of search engines, as Firefox does, it moved me to an Add-on Gallery: Search Providers page. There, the first time I ran it, my choices included Wikipedia, the New York Times, and Hulu. Notice what's missing? Google, Yahoo!, or even AltaVista.

What the heck was this? I ran it again and this time the usual search suspects, except for AltaVista, showed up. Still this left a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm not sure what to make of this experience. Surely, Microsoft isn't foolish enough to try to hide its competition from end-users. They got blasted by the U.S. Courts for similar reasons for what they did to Netscape. While the U.S. has been ignoring Microsoft's sometimes questionable monopolistic actions, the European Commission is still keeping a close eye on Microsoft when it comes to Web browser.

Still, for me, this was just one more reason to avoid IE8. Whether it was deliberate or not, it was certainly an odd moment. And, in any case, IE, no matter what version you're running, is still too insecure for me. Instead, I suggest you try Chrome, Firefox, Opera, which seems to be faster than ever, or Safari. Whatever one you go with, it will be safer, probably faster, and not so inclined to make changing your default search provider an adventure.

11 comments

    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Since I've started using Firefox..I've never switched back to IE..for me, IE is already obsolete and very slow...also it is more prone to malware attacks...thus, making it less ideal to use.Las Vegas real estate
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Steven is not saying that it's not possible to change your search provider, only that the first thing MS tries to do is misdirect you to the provider they control and away from competitors. Just another example of the heavy handed approach to dealing with customers that MS is famous for. Sure, he doesn't like MS. For good reason.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    I am stuck in it always shutdown without any warning, cant install plugins, cant reduce security, what a great achievement by Microsoft.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    I had the same experience as sjvn. I've been a software developer for 20 years and I've built many user interfaces and used many more.I believe the IE8 interface is confusing by design. For me Google was on page two. Today the search order is "most viewed" with "Bing Search" being first and "Google Search Suggestions" being sixth.I guess I'm too old or have been using Firefox too long to be confused by "...Suggestions". I was looking for a search engine. Why isn't it "Bing Search Suggestions"? Tell me that that wasn't by design!I admit it, I was frustrated at not being able to easily switch to Google. I had to google the answer so obviously I wasn't the only one having difficulty switching. And if I, a person that other people seek out to solve their problems, couldn't do it then I'm sure it prevented a lot of other people from switching to Google.I remember hearing that people used whatever search engine was pre-installed to first search for Google and then use Google to perform their search. I wonder if that is still true. I wonder if Bing's number one search request is "google".Jamie
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Sorry to say Steven, I have to disagree with you here.Where Windows 7 is concerned, IE8 and Chrome are both sandboxed.These days, if your network-facing App isn't sandboxed you risk getting compromised with every new zero day.Personally, I run Ubuntu 9.10 with Firefox running in an AppArmor profile.But I recommend that W7 Folk stick with either IE8 or Chrome simply because they are sandboxed.Office 2010 will be sandboxed.Sandboxing is becoming a standard security practice.Thanks.Dietrich T. Schmitz
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Well; I suspect an average user will keep default which is .. Bing, naturally. That's why:No choice of search engine is suggested on initial start up IE8 page.When you click on 'Find More providers' (I am not sure that word 'providers' means the same as search engines, by the way)you will see 'Bing search' with 5 stars as the first one; and scrolling down you can find 'Google Search suggestions' in the third row with 4 starts just below 'Amazon Search Suggestions' which has 5 stars rating. They are listed not even in ABC order. You consider this 'fair and balanced' as on Fox News?!Thank you. JA
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    I've had google in my bookmarks for years and I just transfer them over and use the link, so I went to the search for providers to test your experience and all the ones you mentioned Google, and Yahoo are on the first page. Altavista, which hasn't been a major player in years was on a later page of selections. Apparently one of two things are going on here, 1. You may need to switch the Fisher Price Apple OS, or 2. You already are and are using this article as a platform to bash MS.Not stating fact here just getting that feeling from the tone of the article.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Firstly, I agree with the first two paragraphs. After that, I completely disagree with you on this.Secondly, it's very easy to change the Search Provider in IE8.Ok ok, give this a try. Click on the drop down arrow to the right of the search box located in the top right hand corner of IE8. Now click on the cleverly worded option "Find More Providers...". That's odd - You'll see that it brings you to this webpage http://www.ieaddons.com/en/searchproviders/Now, all you have to do is click "Add to Internet Explorer" button beside your chosen provider.That wasn't too hard ! Was it ?To be honest, I find this article of zero value.I do use some Microsoft software on a day to day basis - Windows 7, Visual Studio and I'm happy with it. I don't use IE8, I prefer Chrome.But...I just had to write a comment, because you came across as a bitter old man that attacks something for no reason. Something that you don't have to use(and probably don't...anymore) and that you also get for free. Doesn't make any sense to me :) Sure what's the point ?ECPS I'm reminded of a Louis C.K. interview on the Conan O'Brien show.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    I think you may be the only person to have this problem. I'm running windows 7 home premium, and I have internet explorer 8. I do have bing, yahoo and google preinstalled. Iwould think thgat something like this would be highly unlikely. Microsoft would get some bashing for protectionism like this.Although, I do agree. I wouldn't touch any version of IE with a ten-foot-pole, and only open it when I'm testing out websites (web-designer). And most of the time IE8, is the only broswer that causes proplems for me.-
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    The first time I clicked "Find more providers" I was presented with three PAGES of different providers.You should stop obsessing over Microsoft it’s not healthy, look at what happened to Scott McNealy with his obsession with Microsoft, he lost focus and he lost his job and now Oracle owns the company.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    The comments seem harsh on the author. One's ability to critique the user interface is inversely proportional to their tech expertise, or age for that matter. Isn't that the point of the user interface? Now for my own problem with IE8...Although a longtime user of Firefox, I only recently changed my default browser to Firefox. The straw was that IE8 kept returning me to the last cached page causing confusion. The worst case of this was a frame page in which I clicked a link in one panel to bring up information in another panel, but the information displayed was from days before and a different account until I right-clicked to refresh the panel. After making faulty decisions on faulty information several times, I had it. Another example was clicking a link in email from my spam filtering service, only to be taken to the cached page that said I had no spam. By refreshing the page I would get the expected login prompts and see a full load of captured spam. The problem lies in IE8 reaching for the last cached page for a dynamic web page's URL. So that was my beef with IE8. There is probably a fix for this, but the quicker user-interface fix was to change the default browser rather than reading through the IE8 options/properties.

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