In any case, the 40MHz of spectrum that Dish would get in AWS-4, around 2GHz, would not be enough to build its business, Ergen said. Dish wants some lower frequencies with longer range, such as in the 700MHz band where AT&T and Verizon operate, to better serve rural areas. T-Mobile, MetroPCS, Sprint Nextel, Clearwire and other carriers also need more or different spectrum, he said. Meanwhile, AT&T and Verizon, everyone's biggest competitors, have 100MHz or more.
"There's only two guys that don't need more spectrum," Ergen said. "But they say they do, but they don't."