Oracle vs. Google over Java

Oracle suing Google over its use of Java in Android should frighten any company that develops with Java.

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, ITworld |  Open Source, Google, java 6 comments

Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java in Android and that may change everything about Java and open-source development.

That's one heck of a claim. Unfortunately, the experts agree.

Java, while never a key language in Linux, is the core language for literally hundreds of software development companies and organizations. They range in size from IBM with its J9 JVM (Java Virtual Machine) and Red Hat with its JBoss middleware stack to pure open-source projects such as the Apache/Jakarta, to individual developers who are members of the Java Community Process (JCP). It's hard to think of a software development business that doesn't use its own house-brew of Java somewhere in its product line or development stack.

Since, Oracle is an open-source company, complete with its own Linux distribution, the Red Hat-based Unbreakable Linux, you might be wondering why Oracle is doing this. James Gosling, Java's creator, thinks it's because Oracle wants money: "Oracle finally filed a patent lawsuit against Google. Not a big surprise. During the integration meetings between Sun and Oracle where we were being grilled about the patent situation between Sun and Google, we could see the Oracle lawyer's eyes sparkle. Filing patent suits was never in Sun's genetic code."

Maybe it is though for Oracle. Certainly, Oracle has never been averse to going to the courtroom mats during its long history of hostile takeovers, such as its acquisition of PeopleSoft.

Oracle can go after Google because, while Java's previous owner Sun, did open-source Java under the GPLv2, the Java specification patent grants that went along with it, are only valid if developers use fully-compliant Java implementation. Many, perhaps most, developers have used a variety of open-source Java implementations that aren't fully compliant. This leaves them potentially vulnerable to hostile Oracle lawsuits.

Don't think that Oracle isn't aware of this. As Dan Kusnetzky, VP of Research Operations for The 451 Group, a prominent analyst firm, said, "This appears to be a warning shot across the bow of the whole industry. One could now question if Java will still be considered an open platform."

John Weatherby, Jr., executive director of the Open Source Software Institute (OSSI), an organization that promotes the use of open-source software in government, agreed with Kusnetzky. Weatherby remarked, "I would assume this is an initial step by Oracle to start laying out a perimeter in their new sandbox and to let everyone know that they do, in fact, own the Sun assets. If you wished to send that message throughout the industry, what better target to smack than Google?"

Many observers were shocked by Oracle's move. Jay Lyman, The 451 Group's open-source analyst said, "This is a surprising move." While Lyman expected that there was "a coming storm over software patents, I did not anticipate it would be initiated by Oracle."

Lyman is hopeful that there will be a quick resolution. But, since "Oracle is a founding member of the Linux Foundation and Google is a member, I'm frankly surprised this was not settled within that consortium."

Lyman's unsure what Oracle really hopes to net from its lawsuit. "I'm not sure the gains are going to be worth the gamble here for Oracle. We may see the full weight of the pro-FOSS, anti-software patent movement come down on Oracle. I've already seen references to 'SCOracle,' which is a linkage to SCO Group and its failed legal efforts and not what any vendor initiating legal action would possibly want."

6 comments

    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Their copyright claim has no merit, the lawyers at Groklaw are unanimous - Oracle has NO valid claims in their filing. Their patents are pathetic and obvious. Obvious patents have A LOT OF PRIOR ART. So Oracle lost that too. In a few years Oracle will be like SCO... their database business will suffer from this litigation too, Oracle can't be trusted.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    The Oracle lawsuit addresses two issues (1) Patents and (2) Copyrights. The patent issue allows Oracle to file with the FTC to block all Android products imported into the USA. The copyright issue allows Oracle to collect up to $250K statutory damages plus fees for each Android shipped within the USA. The copyright issue is the one with real “teeth” (Example: Google ships 200,000 Androids/day X $250K/unit shipped).Ironically, Oracle, a commercial company, is using an Open Source case law victory to sue an open source based company, Google. Google’s only defense is “fair use” and the plaintiff’s complaint clearly eliminates that as a defense.IMHO, Google may have already lost the case; See CAFC-2008-1001 (Federal Circuit Court of Appeals, Washington, DC).
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Many experts have been warning about the use of Java in applications and the potential legal issues down the road.This was expected...everyone with half a brain knew it was coming, we just did not know when...now we know when.While I do NOT believe that Oracle has a snowball's chance in you-know-where of enforcing this, especially not against Google who can afford the lawyers, it should be a HUGE wake up call to one and all. Just stop using it period.Perhaps Oracle is just counting on people being "afraid" and paying when they do NOT have too, after all such fear tactics have worked with some companies in the past. These naive companies mistakenly pay such legalized extortion rather then forcing the fear-monger (Oracle in this case) to put their money where their mouth is....not because its right, but because its cheaper.If you can not afford to pay Oracle to go away, then stop using Java and anything related to Java, period. Enough people stop using the products, these companies will stop trying to abuse their market position and extort the money.WAKE up....they did it, Oracle shot themselves in the foot, yet again, now let them stop the bleeding themselves. And if they can not staunch the flow of developers away from Java and other partially proprietary licensed applications they deserve to die. Hey Oracle, you are not the Republicans or the Federal Reserve, we are not buying into your fear mongering and we have no intention of bailing you out. Go away now...bye bye.If you are stupid enough to continue to use Java in your products, especially after proof of their intentions, you deserve a Darwin Award...congratulations.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Oracle seriously needs to be c**k punched.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Oracle certainly has the right to make money and please stockholders in many creative ways. Throughout that quest, they need to pay attention to their customer community and customer trust. Perturbations in the Java world will have consequences.
    Anonymous 1 year ago
    Since, Oracle is an open-source company...That just made me laugh out loud.

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