Extreme Programming Explained
Bruce Taylor recently spoke with Kent Beck and Cynthia Andres, co-authors of "Extreme Programming Explained". The discussion touches on the principles behind extreme programming, how the roles of programmers and managers are changing, and XP's potential advantages for software development teams. Tom DeMarco, an author, consultant and lecturer on software engineering and management practices also joins this conversation. Following is an edited transcript of that conversation. You may also listen to the original interview here.
Hi I'm Bruce Taylor and this is Voices on ITworld. Our topic today is extreme programming (XP) and what it means as a loose subset of the agile software development in project management movement. Our special guests today are Kent Beck and Cynthia Andres, co-authors of "Extreme Programming Explained," now in its recently released 2nd edition from Addison-Wesley Professional. I'm also delighted to have joining us in this conversation Tom DeMarco. Tom is a well-known author, consultant and lecturer on software engineering and management practices. Welcome to you all and thank you for joining us.
All: Thank you.
Bruce Taylor: Kent, first to you. If you had to choose one key learning that has surprised you between the publication of the 1st edition and what you know today, what would that be?
Kent Beck: It's not all about programming. It's not all about programmers. Programmers aren't somehow special and to be protected and coddled. I used to say often that programmers were children. They liked not to be yelled at and to have more toys, and I think that was kind of my attitude for quite a while and I saw myself as one of those people. And that's not the way I view the world now. I think programmers are, or at least can be, adults and can and should, for the good of development and themselves, act that way.
Bruce: Tom DeMarco, you've read both books. What surprised you?
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